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Owen:
Tell me how the persona of Joe Bob was born.
Joe: I was the film critic at
the Dallas Times Herald and I noticed that there
was a certain class of film that was never
reviewed, never screened for critics--it existed
only in the ghetto of drive-ins and downtown
grind houses. I found these films more
entertaining than the standard Hollywood
mainstream release of the week, and so I started
reviewing them. One of the first
producer/directors I met was Roger Corman, and I
asked him, "What are the essential
exploitation ingredients?" He told me, and I
refined that into the three B's: Blood, Breasts
and Beasts. I wanted to celebrate these films, so
I invented a populist persona that wouldn't be
subject to the same restrictions that existed for
mainstream critics. For the first three years,
nobody knew who actually wrote the column. At any
rate, I started going to the drive-ins to review
the films, because the distributors were
skeptical and didn't want to screen them for me.
The first one I did was "The Grim
Reaper," the Italian cannibal
classic. Eventually the exploitation distributors
started setting up screenings for me in advance
because, at the time, I was the only critic in
America interested in reviewing these movies. The
criticism and the persona developed in concert.
Owen: I love that you have this
deep appreciation of your subject matter.
It definitely came through in your film
hosting. I really enjoyed 'Joe
Bob's Drive-In Theater' on TMC and then
'MonsterVision' on TNT.
Tell me about your newest hosting gig on The
Scream Channel.
Joe: Well, first of all, the Scream
Channel has changed its name. The current one
we're working with is HorrorNet, although I hope
it will change again, because I think horror is
too limiting, the channel is supposed to also
include suspense films and thrillers. At any
rate, the show on HorrorNet will be more of the
same. Movie hosting, direct to camera, enthusiasm
for the movies themselves but not afraid to poke
fun. One of the basic differences between what I
do and what some other hosts do is that I always
celebrate the movies, even if I'm putting them
down--if that makes any sense.
Owen: I also recall that there
were several movies TMC wouldn't let you
show. What were some of the titles and is
HorrorNet more amicable that way?
Joe: "The too grisly for
cable" list didn't apply just to TMC -- no
one else would show those movies, either. They
included "Demons," the
original "Chainsaw Massacre,"
"I Spit On Your Grave"
(I think this one is still banned), and a lot of
lesser titles that didn't pass editing. HorrorNet
will show uncut movies, but only on our secondary
premium channel. The basic digital channel will
be edited for nudity and for violence.
Owen: You're the author of
several books. Most recently, Profoundly
Disturbing: Shocking Movies that Changed History.
Can you give me a synopsis of what you wanted to
convey with the book?
Joe: It's about movies that were
banned, censored or just ignored but that somehow
seeped into the popular culture and affected us.
Owen: Why do you think so many
critics are quick to deny the importance of films
like 'Blood Feast', 'I Spit on Your Grave', or 'The
Texas Chainsaw Massacre'?
Joe: Well, I don't think there
are many critics left who would deny the
importance of "The Texas Chain Saw
Massacre," but many critics don't
realize the impact films have due to the bizarre
ways they percolate through the culture. For
example, "Blood Feast"
was popularized almost entirely by punk bands in
the late seventies. "I Spit On Your
Grave" was so notorious that it was
on the "too grisly for cable"
list--banned from even premium cable
channels--and pretty much destroyed the careers
of everyone affiliated with it. Oddly enough, it
was the male critics who were most disturbed by
it.
Owen: And what was the last
movie you saw that has "changed the way we
look at movies"?
Joe: Probably "Crash."
Not the abortion that came out this year, but the
Cronenberg movie.
Owen: You have acted in several
movies as well like Martin Scorsese's 'Casino',
'Face/Off'', 'The Stand',
and 'Hollywood Boulevard 2'.
I was sad to hear your part in 'Texas
Chainsaw Massacre 2' was cut. Was
that upsetting at the time?
Joe: No, not really, because I
just did it on a lark. I was on the set working
for Rolling Stone, and Kit Carson and I wrote
three scenes together because Tobe was so hyped
to get me in the movie. The scene was cut by
Cannon Films because they were editing for
length, and Tobe was most apologetic.
Owen: With watching all these
movies and obviously loving them...have you ever
considered making a movie of your own? If
so, what would be the title and plot?
Joe: Well, no, not really, it would be
fun, but I've always been focused on other
things.
Owen: I know that video and DVD
has increased the number of horror flicks, but do
you think the demise of the drive-in affected the
horror movie experience?
Joe: Nope, because all you need
for a great horror movie experience is a dark
environment, preferably full of screaming girls.
Owen: I have also heard you are
hosting a DVD line for Elite. What can we
expect from that project?
Joe: I have two DVD lines, one with
Elite Entertainment and one with Media Blasters.
For Elite, I've done the commentary track for
"I Spit On Your Grave,"
"Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's
Daughter" and "The
Double D Avenger." For Media
Blasters, I've done "Samurai Cop,"
"Blood Shack," "The
Hollywood Strangler Meets the Skid Row Slasher,"
"Hell's Angels '69,"
"Hell High," "Warlock
Moon," "The Incredibly
Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became
Mixed-Up Zombies," "Blood
Sisters" and "Run,
Angel, Run."
Owen: So can you give me Joe
Bob's list of the 10 must-have horror movies to
have in every collection?
Joe: Oh wow. I'm changing my
list all the time, but off the top of my head:
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (the
original)
Hellraiser
Night of the Living Dead (the
original)
Audition
Evil Dead
Suspiria
Demons
Frankenstein (the
original)
Invasion of the Body
Snatchers (the original)
Peeping Tom
Owen: Have you ever seen a movie
and thought "This gore is just too
much!"
Joe: Absolutely not.
Owen: And finally since this is
Racks and Razors, what horror movie has the
highest breast count that you can recall?
Joe: That's a tough one. I know
that at one time the champion was "Gas
Pump Girls," but that's not a
horror flick. Probably "Sorority
House Massacre 2."
Owen: Thanks again
Joe Bob and all the best to you.
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