Owen: Tell me a bit about your
latest writing/directing/producing project OCTOBER
MOON?
Jason: OCTOBER
MOON is the story of Elliot (Jerod
Howard), a straight man who realizes he is gay
when he falls for Corin (Sean Michael Lambrecht),
another man. Unfortunately, Corin is already
in a long-term relationship with Jake (Jeff Dylan
Graham), and when he is additionally
rejected by his mother (Judith O'Dea), boss
(Brinke Stevens) and finacee (Tina Ona
Paukstelis), he goes off the deep end and decides
he can force Corin to love him...even if it
involves murder....
There's
no one way to describe the genre OCTOBER
MOON fits into. It starts off as a drama
mixed with comedy, becomes a serious thriller,
and concludes as a full-on horror film. It's got
some excellent scares and suspense. I'm really
proud of how it's turned out. The cast is
fantastic. It has been a very cathartic film for
me as well, from story to script to screen,
because a lot of the characters are based on my
own experiences of coming out, and those
experiences of my friends. Names have been
changed, but to many degrees it is a true story,
with the exception of the bloody finale.
Owen: What a great cast! Not
only Brinke Stevens but also Judith
O'Dea. Was 'Barbara' from the original 'Night
of the Living Dead' a dream cast member?
Jason: Judith was
a delight! I'd already known her from
interviewing her for Femme Fatales and SOMETHING
TO SCREAM ABOUT, but now I was hiring
her as an actor and directing her, so it was kind
of scary and freaky at the same time. At one
point she put on a long blonde wig for a
flashback sequence and suddenly it hit me that
this was "BARBARA" standing in front of
me. So I was a bit intimidated and worried about
my own skills as a director, desperately wanting
to make sure that my crew/cast and I came off
very professionally to her, even though we all
had our heads up our asses and were running
around in circles.
It was clear Judith knew exactly
where we were coming from and how tight our
budget was...hello! She starred in one of the
most successful and important LOW BUDGET pictures
in history. I think she used the word
"archaic" in SOMETHING TO
SCREAM ABOUT when she described making NIGHT
OF THE LIVING DEAD, so she knew in
advance what she was getting into...and I think
trusted us and enjoyed the production for that
exact reason... she'd been there before...
Owen: You
are so great. I love that you have made this
genre your livelihood. Growing up did you ever
guess that your love of horror movies would also
be your career?
Jason:
Not at first. I just had this all-consuming
passion for horror movies. At the time I had
whole-heartedly planned on becoming a
Kindergarten teacher. My career goals began to
change, though, over the summer of 1990 when I
made my first short movie, DEAD WOMEN
DON'T WEAR SHOES. I felt such a surge of
energy when I picked up that camcorder and yelled
action for the first time. I knew it was meant to
be from that point forward.
Owen:
I've heard that Scream Queen extraordinaire
Brinke Stevens
took you under her wing and introduced you to
lots of folks in the business. How did your
relationship with her develop?
Jason: I
met her as a fan at a Chicago Fango convention in
1994. I was writing (on my own) a spec script for
SLUMBER PARTY MASSACRE IV and
wanted to know if she'd be interested in
reprising her role from the original (I explained
away her character's "death"). She gave
me her agent's contact info and after I sent her
the script we just became pen pals. As my career
began to take its first few baby steps she
offered guidance. Then when I moved to LA she
made it her goal to first convince me not to
come... When she realized I was moving anyway,
she offered to help me out and feed me a home
cooked meal at least once a month. And there you
have the beginnings of a true friendship.
Owen:
Tell me about your first writing/directing gig on
MARK OF THE DEVIL 666: THE MORALIST a
decade ago? What was the most challenging
part of the assignment for you?
Jason: I
got MARK OF THE DEVIL 666 after
MDM, the production company, read my spec script
for LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT - PART 2.
They sent me the equipment. We began shooting
sporadically over the casts' free days in June
1994 and wrapped it in October 1994. It
was done for, I believe, $450. I sent it to
MDM for the edit, which literally took 9
months. That waiting period was probably the most
challenging part (as it often still does). The
shoot was very easy and relatively hassle
free. Everyone got along, the gore fx worked
as expected, and it turned a decent profit.
At one point MDM asked me
to do MARK OF THE DEVIL VII, but
I really wasn't all that thrilled with how MOTD
666 had turned out, so I declined. I
guess the more frustrating part was not having
any control over the edit or most especially
the horrid music. Yech!
Owen: One
of your finest achievements is the entire 5 DARK
SOULS trilogy (5 DARK SOULS,
5 DARK SOULS II: ROOTS OF EVIL, and 5
DARK SOULS III: RETRIBUTION). Did you
find recreating and using a continuous set of
circumstances and characters made the project
easier since it was known, or more difficult with
a need to keep it fresh?
Jason:
I'm not so certain I'd consider the 5
DARK SOULS trilogy among my
"finest." ;-) I found continuing the
characters actually to be more intriguing and fun
and creatively satisfying than telling the same
story over again, or making some entirely
different movie with only the title slapped on
it. PART II seems a bit disjointed from the
original, but PART III makes it all come
together. Part 1 is the beginning, Part II is the
middle with where these kids came from, and Part
III is the end, and one I believe to be a
satisfying conclusion. I think bringing the
characters back and putting them in familiar
settings but with new situations kept it fresh.
However, I'm definitely done with it. The
story has come as far as it can go
without repeating itself, at least in my mind.
I see no need in our world for 5
DARK SOULS IV...if there ever is one,
you'll know I must have made some nice $
from Part III....
Owen: You
also work so closely quite frequently with
director David DeCoteau (Nightmare Sisters, the
Puppet Master series, Sorority Babes in the Slime
Bowl-O-Rama). You have worked with him as
assistant director on ANCIENT EVIL:
SCREAM OF THE MUMMY, FINAL STAB,
and THE BROTHERHOOD 1 & 2.
What are the primary things have you learned from
an apprenticeship with him?
Jason: That movies can be made by anyone with very
little cash. David was my basic training. I
learned much from him as far as the business end
of the film world goes. How to handle myself on a
set with 40 people doing various jobs and seem
professional...to keep the ship moving at a quick
pace.
Owen: Some of his movies are so hot! Yum! For
example, THE BROTHERHOOD 1
& 2 are like gay erotica. Did
that cause any problem with investors?
Jason:
Not at all as far as I know, especially after
THE BROTHERHOOD made them $2 million
richer... I don't know for a fact, but my guess
is they weren't looking for him to change the
world with his films -- they were looking to
increase their bank accounts, which they did....A
LOT...
Owen: Tell
me about being a victim before the cameras for DEADLY
STINGERS.
Jason: I
had to do very little dying...I was already dead,
so all I had to really do was get the fx applied
and lay there motionless. The two problems I
encountered were #1: It really is a bitch trying
to hold your breath when you're upside down and a
scene goes for 3 minutes. #2: I severely
hurt myself. I have permanent tissue damage to my
stomach/torso. I was upside down in a cement
ravine for upwards of 3 hours and there was
nothing holding me in place, so I had to arch my
back and dig my heels into the ground to keep
from sliding down the slope. In the process, I
tore all the tissue in my stomach and chest, so I
now have a hard line, which kind of feels like a
thin piece of rope, which moves around
sporadically under my skin from my chest down to
my pelvis. When it first happened I honestly
thought I had some sort of parasite in me, like a
tapeworm. It was pretty scary. Not too painful
anymore, but it'll always be there. Heh, the
things I do for my craft... all that grief and
the f-king movie STILL has never been released by
Fox. Only convention goers and some bootleg
owners have seen it. They seem to enjoy it
though! (So write FOX Home Video and tell them to
put it out!)
Owen:
Tell me about your work on HELL ASYLUM.
Jason: It
was one of those rare times when I simply got to
be a cast member instead of crew, so my only
rough work was removing all the sticky gore from
my very hairy arms. (They used grape jelly as the
gore!) I remember it being very hot but also a
very fun set. I taped all the cast and crew for
the DVD extras, so whenever someone is being
interviewed, that's me holding the camera and
asking the questions. Everyone really got along
and laughed a lot. The days were long, but I
remember this weird feeling of being an actor for
the first time. Sure my face was covered for most
of the movie as one of the killer brides (you
only ever see my face as a board member in the
closing scene), but it was a very wild
sensation knowing I was being told to
perform in front of a camera, and that my name
would role in the end credits as two
characters! Quite the charge. The only bad
thing was when I was "killing" the head
honcho of the Chill Challenge show. I rip
his heart out by reaching down his throat and
pulling it out through his mouth. Very fun and
gooey. HOWEVER, in our last shot, the actor - Tim
Muskatell - slipped on the plastic bags
protecting the carpet under us and he dislocated
his knee... you could actually see the bone
sticking out. THAT was truly gross. I felt so
horrible, because my hands had been on him as he
fell, and that maybe I had done it, but realized
I hadn't been using any actual force on his
body...it was just a bad accident. That blemish
aside, I really loved making the movie.
Owen: You
have writing as well as directing credits. Which
comes easier for you; the introverted act of
writing or the extroverted act of directing?
Jason: I
guess the directing is easier for me because I'm
forced into a situation where I HAVE to complete
the task at hand. Plus I get to see my story come
to life. I'm rather lazy in the scriptwriting
department. Even in school I was always a
procrastinator. It takes forever for me to sit my
butt down at the computer and write the script or
journalism. My office is loitered with notes on
scenes and dialogue because I constantly have
ideas going 'round and 'round in my noggin. My
writing and directing go hand in hand though...I
can't do one without the other. I have little
interest in directing somebody else's script
(which is why I really don't accept submissions).
Owen: Speaking of your writing, you were also named
Editor-In-Chief of Cinefantastique and an
assistant editor for Femme Fatales, but had the
rug pulled out from beneath you when the
publication was sold just as you began your
duties. Was it devastating at the time?
Jason: It
was a HORRIBLE time. It was like the death of a
child. A dream I'd always aspired to obtain, and
then it actually happened, and then it was ripped
away from me before I even had a chance to put
out my first issue. It was humiliating. The new
owners had zero interest in taking anyone from
our staff along to Los Angeles, and the entire
experience was based on lies. We were never even
given a heads up that the magazines were in
trouble, or that they were on the market for
sale. Then we weren't even told there were new
owners. We were given the impression the mags
were simply deceased and the bank was taking over
the property, so we had to rush around gathering
our personal items "...because once 'they'
show up on site, everything in the offices
belongs to them." None of the
writers/photographers were ever paid, and the new
owners bought the mags knowing they wouldn't pay
the staff what was owed. They simply didn't hire
those writers and photographers again for the new
magazine, with the exception of a very few who
they did pay off under the table. Not cool in my
book. I'm still owed $2,000 -- yet those issues
for which I was never paid are still being sold
in their back catalogue.
I couldn't even look at
any issues of FF or CFQ for over 2 years. They
were put in a box and shoved to the back of the
closet. In fact, I came across the 10th
Anniversary issue while I was cleaning about 2
months ago and for the first time since September
2002 was able to page through it.
The hurt and anger subsided to a mere
simmer a while ago, but I still have little
respect for how dirty the whole thing went
down. There...my rant is over...
Owen: An
amazing example of your journalism is Assault
of the Killer Bs, a great book of interviews
with 20 cult actresses. How did that
project come about? Did you do a lot of
gushing during the interviews?
Jason: It
was basically the unedited versions of my
articles from Femme Fatales and Fangoria. FF had
butchered some of the articles REALLY bad...the
result of one particular person...so I compiled
my favorite pieces on the women and approached
McFarland with the idea. They were the first and
only publisher I approached and they took it
instantly, so I jumped at it. It also allowed me
a chance to publish some articles, which had been
lost in the FF/CFQ debacle.
As for gushing, for the
most part "no." I did on the
inside, but on the outside I always try to remain
professional. I make it known to the subject that
I'm a fan and very aware of their career, but I
get that out of the way right at the beginning so
they don't wonder if I'm a stalker. The only
two I "gushed" over openly were Julie
Brown and Cassandra Petersen (Elvira). I
couldnt control myself.
Owen: On
a similar note you also helmed the documentary on
scream queens called SOMETHING TO SCREAM
ABOUT featuring chats with Brinke
Stevens, Julie Strain, Judith O'Dea, Felissa
Rose, Debbie Rochon, Denice Duff, etc. Tell
me about that project?
Jason: It
actually started life as SHOCK CINEMA 5!
J.R. Bookwalter asked me if the old VHS
copies of the original series was still selling
thru FF, which it was...and very well I might
add. So he was going to relaunch the franchise
and we were going to call it FEMME
FATALES PRESENTS SHOCK CINEMA and make
three new chapters. We started shooting in June
2002 in Los Angeles. I believe Debra DeLiso
was the first interview, and we filmed the
majority of girls that day. Then the crash of FF
occurred and luckily there had never been any
contracts signed or real involvement from the
magazine itself. So we dropped the FF connection,
and as time progressed figured it might be better
to start with a fresh title vs. a Part 5 to
a twelve year old documentary series.
I had interviewed most of
the girls previously for FF, and many of them had
remained in touch with me. I narrowed the list
down to actresses who were of a wider variety for
a broader range of views instead of all the
usual subjects. Then I went after a few ladies
who I knew like Julie Strain and Denice Duff, but
had never before had a chance to interview.
They each came in for about 2 hours. All
were absolute sweethearts and really let loose on
their personal lives and issues. So it was cool.
Owen: So
now that you have a fair amount of clout, is
there any chance of that LAST HOUSE
ON THE LEFT - PART 2 screenplay
of yours (which you wrote at 19) being
filmed?
Jason: I
wouldn't hold my breath. The industry &
society has only gotten more hardened to films as
violent as I wrote it. There's an abundance of
sexual torture and humiliation in it, so I doubt
it'll ever be filmed. I'd bet on a cleaned up
remake of the original first. I actually wrote
another LAST HOUSE sequel a few
years ago and still didn't get anywhere with
it... nobody wants to touch something which could
head the NC-17 route... Is NC-17 even around
anymore?
Owen: So
with all your experience and observation, would
you care to give a brief trajectory of horror
from the early 70s gore of THE LAST
HOUSE ON THE LEFT and THE
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE through
the FRIDAY THE 13TH and HALLOWEEN years to today?
Jason:
All I can say is I'm rapidly loosing faith in
horror. Hollywood is remaking everything that was
ever any good, and today's generation of movie
watchers (not always necessarily horror fans)
aren't just forgetting that DAWN OF THE
DEAD and THE TEXAS CHAINSAW
MASSACRE were originally movies from the
1970s, they're deliberately ignoring them.
"They're too old and boring..."
WHAT!?!? We're loosing our connection to cinema
history with these remakes. My teenage cousins
had no idea ASSAULT ON PRECINCT 13
and THE FOG already exist!
"LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT...what's
that?" "Eeew...NIGHT OF THE
LIVING DEAD is in black and white?
Boring...I'm not watching that." The 1960s,
70s and 80s were chocked full of new ideas. Then
all of the sudden, somewhere around the very
early 1990s it all just headed south and I found
myself growing tired of the bad, unscary, and
not-at-all original movies coming out. With a few
exceptions like THE CRAFT, SCREAM,
BLAIR WITCH, THE SIXTH
SENSE, SIGNS, and THE
OTHERS, there's been little to thrill me
or offer hope.
Hollywood's strangle hold
on the industry is too strong to let anything new
get thru to the masses. They control what you see
in your local Cineplex and rent at your local
Blockbuster or Hollywood Video. You're not going
to find little gems like you did back in the 80s
when mom and pop video stores were on every
corner and in grocery stores and gas stations.
Those days are gone. Larger cities only have 3
major chain stores all carrying the same A-list
Hollywood "safe" product. Its
been a sad time for many years now, & I think
horror is only going to continue to suffer from
it.
Jason:
What's lined up next for you?
Owen: First
is finishing OCTOBER MOON and
going full speed ahead into publicity for it.
We're planning to begin a nation wide bar tour,
screening it at gay clubs and hosting events.
Plus we'll do some limited theatrical screenings.
People can check out the trailer and pix at www.octobermoonthefilm.com for a sneak peak.
Jason:
I've also just been asked to appear in a new
horror film called SENTENIAL by
a director named Jason Satterfield. It's a rare
thing, but it'll be nice to be in front of the
camera getting mutilated by Special FX vs.
getting emotionally mauled behind the camera. ;-)
I believe that begins filming in late July 2005.
After that, I'm debating which of three scripts I
want to pursue...all horror based, of course.
People can always keep tabs on me thru my site at www.jasonpaulcollum.com (I really need to get
that updated!)
Owen: Do
you have some ultimate career goal in mind?
Jason: To
make money doing this...I'm serious. It's
wonderful to be doing what I do and get
delightful letters from fans. I appreciate that
so much and I am completely aware of how lucky I
am to be doing this at all. However, I'm also at
a point were I need to buy a house and have life
insurance and not worry month to month whether or
not I'll be able to pay rent. I'm not asking to
live in a mansion and drive a BMW. I simply want
to be comfortable and not have to take on extra
jobs to pay bills. I want to be able to
concentrate 100% on making movies that I care
about, to share my stories with the world.
Owen: What's
something that scares you in real life?
Jason: Society scares me. People are so used to being
rotten these days, and short of running off to
live a meager life in the mountains, I don't
quite know how to get away from it. I'm becoming
a much less social person as a result. There's no
such thing as respect for others. Nobody's
polite. We're in this nasty "All About
ME" society...it doesn't matter if you hurt
someone else's feelings. Then when something like
Columbine happens everyone runs around crying and
asking "Why?!" My guess is those
kids with the guns were treated like shit by
their classmates -- that's why. But no one
would dare admit to it. They're all
"innocent." (This is why I highly
recommend the movies DUCK! THE CARBINE
HIGH MASSACRE and HEARTS IN
AMERICA. They both hit the
nail on the head.) I only see society
getting worse. Aside from that, snakes and bees
terrify me.
Owen: So
can you give me a brief Must See horror
list?
Jason: Everyone
already knows the basics: TEXAS CHANSAW
MASSACRE, A NIGHTMARE ON ELM
STREET, HALLOWEEN,
etc. So with the exception of making sure
every future horror filmmaker needs to study
CARRIE (1976) for its craftsmanship,
I'll give a breakdown of titles people
need to see which they don't normally hear:
THE BAD SEED
(1956), THE HAUNTING (1963), BLACK CHRISTMAS
(1974), SQUIRM (1976), ALICE, SWEET ALICE (1976),
BURNT OFFERINGS (1976), MASSACRE AT CENTRAL HIGH
(1976), THE LITTLE GIRL WHO LIVES DOWN THE LANE
(1976), TOURIST TRAP (1979), THE FOG (1980),
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME (1980), HELL NIGHT (1981),
DEADLY BLESSING (1981), CLASS OF 1984 (1982), THE
SLUMBER PARTY MASSACRE (1982), DOLLS (1986),
AMERICAN GOTHIC (1987), THE STEPFATHER (1987),
PAPERHOUSE (1988), JACK BE NIMBLE (1992), DUCK!
THE CARBINE HIGH MASSACRE (1999), SPLICED (2001)....
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