Betsy
Baker, Ellen Sandweiss and Sarah
York (whose real name is Theresa
Tilly), a.k.a. 'The Ladies of the
Evil Dead' , are three of the
coolest ladies out there! In
fact, I have a huge gay boy crush
on Ellen! I seriously believe
that she is the very reason that
Joe Strummer rocked the casbah!
(But, don't quote me!) Anyhow,
they are very loyal to their
horror fans, as witnessed by
their super cool website www.ladiesoftheevildead.com
, but as the interview below
attests, they all have so much
more to offer, too. Brian Kirst.Brian:
Was there any initial reluctance
to appearing in a film called 'The
Evil Dead'?
ELLEN:
ACTUALLY, AT THE BEGINNING THE
FILM WAS CALLED
"BOOK OF THE DEAD",
WHICH WASN\rquote T MUCH BETTER.
THEY ENDED UP CHANGING IT BECAUSE
IT SOUNDED TOO
"ACADEMIC"! ANYWAY, NO,
ON MY PART THERE WAS NO
RELUCTANCE. OF COURSE I THINK
EVEN IF IT HAD BEEN CALLED
"SNOT FROM YOUR NOSE",
I STILL WOULD'VE DONE IT. I WAS
THAT EXCITED ABOUT DOING A
FEATURE FILM.
Brian:
Did the extreme
circumstances of the film shoot
bring about immediate bonding
between the three of you?
Theresa:
Does the word Frat boys sound
familiar? It really did feel like
a warped version of Sigma Di Do
Duma and since we not only worked
together all day and all night
but we lived in the same house
with all the guys. The gals
needed each other for certain
things like, making sure we had
toilet paper, no sneezing in the
chili, bi monthly underwear
washing, that sort of thing. Is
that bonding?
Brian:
The relationship between the
three of you, onscreen, is so
natural with gestures of
affection, joking around.... The
performances are truly solid and
believable. I was wondering how
hard you worked to achieve this
state and to fill your roles out.
While I love the film, besides
the role of Cheryl, there doesn't
seem to be a lot in the script,
character development-wise, for
the other two women. Was it
difficult to flesh them out?
Theresa:
Sam was really focused in the
timing of the scare. As you aptly
state there wasn't a lot of
character development. He used
that film time instead for the
time releasing maggot machine at
the end of the movie. However, in
between spewing, vomiting and
limb chewing, we really tried to
capture the real essence and
distinct character of each of the
girls.
Brian:
On re-examining the film, I was
amazed, once again, at what a
truly great piece of filmmaking
it is. The points of view, camera
angles and mood created are truly
inspiring. Were you aware of this
at the time or has that
realization come as you have
progressed in your careers and
gone onto other projects and
worked with directors besides Sam
Raimi?
ELLEN:
DEFINITELY THE LATTER. I
HAD NO IDEA WHEN WE WERE MAKING
IT THAT IT WOULD EVER BE
CONSIDERED "INSPIRED".
I HAD NO EXPERIENCE WITH
FILM-MAKING, SO I NATURALLY
QUESTIONED THINGS LIKE SAM
HANGING FROM THE RAFTERS WITH A
CAMERA IN HIS HANDS. IT'S ONLY
BEEN IN RECENT YEARS THAT I'VE
TRULY APPRECIATED HIS ARTISTRY.
Brian:
I was appreciatively astonished
by the amount of fog used in the
film. Amazing atmosphere filler!
Do you recall how many machines
were used on the set?
BETSY
-- FOG FOR FILM AND TV IS ( OR
WAS, 22 YEARS AGO )PRIMARILY
PRODUCED BY SMALL HAND-HELD
ELECTRICAL MACHINES, THAT LOOK
MUCH LIKE DUSTBUSTERS, OR IN
SMALL FLAT CANS THAT ARE IGNITED
IN ORDER TO PRODUCE FOG,
ESPECIALLY FOR SMALL LOCATIONS (
INTERIORS, CLOSE-UPS ),PLACED ON
FLOORS, OR ON THE GROUND. I DON'T
RECALL HOW MANY WE USED.... BUT
IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH TO PRODUCE
THE AMOUNT OF FOG YOU SAW ON
CAMERA.... AND LET ME TELL YOU,
IT WAS HORRIBLY SMELLING,
IRRITATING TO THE EYES, AND I
CAN'T IMAGINE TO THIS DAY WHAT IT
DID TO OUR LUNGS!
Brian:
Was there a lot of rehearsal and
blocking involved for the combat
scenes inside the cabin? It seems
that every time you turn around
that someone is getting
clobbered, thrown into a cellar
or the bookcase.
ELLEN:
NOT A WHOLE LOT OF
REHEARSAL, BUT DEFINITELY
SPECIFIC BLOCKING. SAM KNEW
EXACTLY HOW HE WANTED THINGS TO
LOOK AND WOULDN'T SETTLE FOR
LESS. ALSO, SINCE HALF THE TIME
WE WERE DOING THOSE SCENES
LITERALLY BLIND (FROM WEARING
SCALERA CONTACT LENSES), WE HAD
TO BLOCK EVERY MOVE SO WE
WOULDN'T KILL OURSELVES OR
SOMEBODY ELSE!
Brian:
I'm sure this is an
oft-asked question, but can you
elaborate a bit on how the scene
in the woods with Cheryl and the
limb grabbing trees was
accomplish
ELLEN:
I GUESS I SHOULD BE THE
ONE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. WE
WOULD START THE SHOT WITH THE
VINES ALREADY WRAPPED AROUND ME,
THEN THEY\rquote ED SHOOT THEM
BEING SLOWLY PULLED OFF. WHEN THE
FILM WAS PLAYED IN REVERSE, IT
LOOKED LIKE THE VINES HAD A LIFE
OF THEIR OWN. THE TOUGH THING WAS
TRYING TO MAKE REVERSE FACIAL
EXPRESSIONS. I DON'T THINK I DID
THAT TOO WELL.
Brian:
Were you aware of the popularity
of the 'Evil Dead' series
all along or is it something that
has more recently - the 20th
anniversary of the original,
perhaps - made its mark in your
life?
Theresa:
After we finished shooting we
really didn't hear much about the
movie for a couple years. I think
that's how long it took to get
distributed. It had a lot of
trouble getting rated due to a
certain tree scene. Shortly after
filming it I shot a PBS short
film that was written by Elmore
Leonard titled Appearances
in which I had the lead. I got
involved in comedy and live
theatre around the Detroit area.
I went to the premiere of Evil
Dead and thought it was
crazy and really didn't have a
lot of hope for it catapulting my
career. Since I'm not really a
big horror movie fan I really
didn't have my finger on the
pulse of what was going on in
that world. It wasn't till twenty
years later that we were invited
to a Q&A at the American
Cinematheque here in Hollywood
that I learned of the incredible
love people have for this movie.
The showing had fans waiting
around the block!
Brian:
Two of you are accomplished
singers and the other, a dancer,
how you considered an "Evil
Dead Ladies" cabaret show
and/or c.d.?
BETSY
-- FUNNY YOU SHOULD ASK. WE HAVE
TALKED OVER, DISCUSSED, AGONIZED,
AND LAUGHED OVER THAT VERY
CONCEPT IN GREAT DEPTH FOR THE
LAST 4 YEARS!! WE'LL LET YOU KNOW
WHEN WE GO ON THE ROAD WITH OUR
TALENTED 3-SOME!
BETSY
-- FUNNY YOU SHOULD ASK. WE HAVE
TALKED OVER, DISCUSSED, AGONIZED,
AND LAUGHED OVER THAT VERY
CONCEPT IN GREAT DEPTH FOR THE
LAST 4 YEARS!! WE'LL LET YOU KNOW
WHEN WE GO ON THE ROAD WITH OUR
TALENTED 3-SOME!
BETSY
-- JOHN MALKOVICH IS AN EXTREMELY
TALENTED MAN, AND WAS ASKED TO DO
THE TV MOVIE WHEN OUR DIRECTOR
SAW HIM PERFORM AT STEPPENWOLF IN
CHICAGO. HE HAD NEVER DONE TV/
FILM BEFORE 'WORD OF
HONOR'. WE WORKED
TOGETHER FOR NEARLY A WEEK. HE
WAS A VERY RESERVED AND QUIET
PERSON, AND KEPT TO HIMSELF ON
THE SET. AND YES, I WOULD AGREE
WITH YOU COMPLETELY... HE HAS A
VERY INTENSE PRESENCE!!
Brian:
Ellen and Theresa (Sarah), you,
both, have horror films coming
out. Would you care to elaborate
on them for us?
ELLEN:
I WAS IN A FILM CALLED "SATAN'S
PLAYGROUND",
DIRECTED BY THE TALENTED DANTE
TOMASELLI, WHICH HAS JUST
RECENTLY BEEN PICKED UP BY ANCHOR
BAY ENTERTAINMENT (THE SAME
COMPANY THAT DISTRIBUTES EVIL
DEAD)AND SHOULD BE RELEASED ON
DVD SOME TIME IN 2006. IT'S A
VERY EERY, SURREAL FILM ABOUT A
FAMILY ON VACATION IN THE NEW
JERSEY PINE BARRENS AND THEIR
ENCOUNTER WITH THE MYTH OF THE "JERSEY
DEVIL". IT HAS
ACOUPLE OF OTHER's HORROR FILM
ICONS IN IT, LIKE FELISSA ROSE OF
"SLEEPAWAY
CAMP" AND EDWIN
NEAL FROM "TEXAS
CHAINSAW MASSACRE".
IT WAS A BLAST TO FILM!
Theresa:
I shot a feature called 4
Days in December directed
by a hard working new comer
Kennin Fenster. It's a Werewolf
movie set in the abandoned gold
mines of Colorado Springs. I
thought shooting in Tennessee was
cold; we had scenes in a blizzard
running around with AK40s in four
feet of snow climbing through the
Rockies. I think it will look
spectacular. It's just beginning
to circulate the festivals. Keep
your fingers crossed.
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