Outspoken
filmmaker Phil Herman has been
making movies since he received a
video camera for his 14th
birthday. Currently he is the
head honcho at Falcon video (not
that Falcon video, the horror
studio!) and has directed,
written, and appeared in a number
of films often featuring his
signature actors Joel D. Wynkoop,
Debbie D, and Nancy Feliciano. He
wrote the script and directed
himself as the bloodthirsty
murdering motorist Mike Rivers in
Jacker and wrote and
starred in the sequel
Jacker 2. Some of his
other writing/directing credits
include The Burglar From
Hell, Before I
Die
, Around
Midnight, After
Midnight, Tales Till
The End, Hell on
Earth: Arena of Death,
Horrortales 666, etc.
Mr. Herman has also made cameo
appearances in a slew of other
films such as Day of the Ax
3: Bloodletting with Tina
Krause and Lilith Stabs. His
latest project (and certainly an
important one) was to sit down
and answer a few questions for
racksandrazors.Owen:
Herman I heard your first
movie, 'Hell on
Earth: Arena of Death', took 6
years to complete. What
were the main lessons you learned
from that marathon filming
experience?
Phil:
Get permits and avoid filming in
public places. We filmed at an
abandoned bathhouse on an army
base and they did not like us
destroying their property with
mutants. But as always finish
what you start no matter what. We
had injuries, arrests, fights you
name it but we finished it and
showed everyone what you can do
on such a little budget if you
put your mind to it. It was my
Waterworld but anyone that knows
of us always asks about the
Arena!
Owen:
Several of your films are also in
anthology format such as 'Horrortales
666', 'Tales
Till the End', and 'Before
I Die...' as a filmmaker
as well as film fan what about
that sort of segmented horror
appeals to you?
Phil:
I have found out anthologies take
only a few months to do while a
feature takes a year or more. I
like anthologies because if a
story sucks you as the viewer
only have to sit there and watch
for 10-15 minutes and say I hope
to God that the next segment is
better. Plus the attention span
of your average American is about
10 minutes before they start
hitting that fast forward button!
So this way when they are about
to reach the button it is over
and another segment comes on.
Owen: Your films also
have a tendency to use and
reuse the same stable of actors
(Debbie D. Nancy Feliciano, Joel
D. Wynkoop) and
technicians. Does that help
make for a more
relaxed environment on the
set?
Phil:
It is like a family reunion. I
have found that people write me
and ask where is so and so how is
he doing? Why is he not in your
movie? Our hard core fans turned
there noses down to Around
Midnight because it was the first
movie to not include anyone from
our previous movies, it was all
new cast and stood on its own.
While sales were good and reviews
were also good the fan base
stayed away cause no familiar
names were attached. Go figure!
Owen:
Are the roles written
specifically for those actors?
Phil:
A lot of times yes. All the roles
in Jacker were
written specifically for the
parts they played. It is more
realistic like that and easier
for the actors to deal with the
roles. The vamp scripts for the
Midnight series was not like that
but I have been involved with
such great talent they were able
to handle it.
Owen: You've also
appeared in many films as well,
most notably as your own leading
man the murderous motorist Mike
Rivers in 'Jacker'
and 'Jacker 2'.
Tell me a little bit about your
take on the role?
Phil:
At the time we filmed that there
was a big problem about car
jacking. It was in the news all
the time. I turned it into a take
on a lunatic that takes advantage
of it because of his bitterness
towards society. I got a ton of
female fans and notice because of
the male nudity in it --
something that people shy away
from in these movies but wanted
girl to watch our films also...it
worked we have very large girl
fan base and that is why we have
no problem getting actresses,
they feel like it is equal
exposure
Owen: Where did
that idea come from?
Phil:
Like I said it was in the news
everyday and I did not want to do
a basic guy car jacking people
but I used the Car jacking as a
backdrop and developed around it
to create a cruel story of
revenge on people that were happy
and really disturbed the Jacker!
Owen: Do you
think the
reality-based violence in
those 2 films is more disturbing
than fantasy?
Phil:
Yes, people always say
that these movies were the most
disturbing because they were
filmed in like a nightmarish
fashion and had nothing good or
bright in it. We tried to film on
dreary days and at night. And in
the sequel created a true hell
that haunts everyone that has
seen it. The first was such a
basic idea but really blossomed
with the sequel into a real
psychological thriller. My good
friend Barry Gaines directed the
sequel in order for me to focus
on the script and the character
100%. We were mentally drained
with the completion and people
still are begging for one more!
Owen: Any chance
for a 'Jacker 3'?
Phil:
As of now there are two different
sequels written. This is a
question I have to answer every
day. But we are having problems
getting the main characters
involved. I had one script that
had my involvement to the minimum
-- but everyone shot it down,
then I have my other script that
has the remaining characters and
a mysterious survivor who
survived his fury looking for
revenge. It is just too hard to
make these movies and unless I
get everyone it wont be
made!
Owen: As the
head honcho at Falcon
Video do you have any sort
of mission statement about the
type of films you want to make
and distribute?
Phil:
I want to make entertaining
movies that people talk about
after and say, Hey that was
fun I really want to see their
next movie.
Owen: Do you
often get confused with Falcon,
the gay XXX studio?
Phil:
Oh yeah, we always
thought of changing the name but
we have had the Falcon name for
over 2 decades and hate to lose
it. Especially when Jacker came
out...the title was confusing...I
still don't see it! WINK! It
really upsets me sometimes but we
have enough people and fans to
notice the difference. Our movies
overflow with beautiful girls and
in no way do people think
were the same as what
theyre putting out!
Owen: Tell me
about your cameo appearance in 'Day
of the Ax 3: Bloodletting'.
Phil:
I was asked to play a mental
patient and jumped at the chance
to be in a 4th floor production.
Ryan is one of my good friends
and I have worked with him a few
times. I have done numerous
cameos and unlike some Indies
never say no to a cameo if asked!
Owen: The
delicious Julie Strain also makes
a cameo appearance in 'Horrortales
666'. What was
working with her like?
Phil:
She taped her stuff and pretty
much told us to make sure that we
put "Cameo ". She did
not want to mislead her fans.
Owen:
Did you make a sales pitch to
have her join Debbie D and Nancy
Feliciano as a Falcon scream
queen?
Phil:
I sent her a copy of one
of our movies and she dug Nancy
and said she would love to be in
the movie. She is not a person
for many words but it was a dream
come true to have her involved.
She was very professional and
would love to get in another
movie hopefully soon!
Owen: Speaking
of which, Nancy Feliciano has
recently announced her
retirement. She has said
before that you can sweet-talk
her into anything. Do you
think you can lure her out of
retirement to make a few more
films?
Phil:
I am trying I have been
begging for the last two weeks to
get her in the final Midnight
movie. Everyone that bought After
Midnight said they want to see
more of her and look forward to
have her in the final
installment. I have to start
turning on the charm more because
as of now I cant get her to
change her mind! But I will not
quit. I think I will get her in
there in some form or another!
Owen:
You have been quoted as saying
"I always say the worst
movie a B maker can make is
better than any Hollywood A list
production". Could you
please clarify that comment?
Phil:
B movie makers are real
filmmakers that make what they
want to make. They don't follow
the guidelines of a studio and go
under a rating system. So many A
movies are bombing and the
studios are suffering while
little arty movies are bringing
in the money. Look at Lions
Gate they are rolling in the
dough putting out B-movies such
as Saw, Devils Rejects and their
whole video line. Now if they
would just open their doors to
the little guys will be talking
to me quality entertainment for
their lacking video line! I was
almost going to stop making
movies and I hooked up with a guy
named Chris Kahler. He turned out
to be a wiz at editing and a
fantastic musician. We have made
two movies so far and working on
our third. Between him and my
other buddy, cult icon Joel D.
Wynkoop were going strong
and popping them out.
Owen:
What scares you in real life?
Phil:
Not being able to make movies
anymore!
Owen:
Well I hope that fear never
becomes a reality. Thanks Phil.
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