
At what age did you see
yourself as a filmmaker?
At San Diego State, age 22.
Did you see
yourself writing horror films?
Sure. I
enjoyed horror films.
What brought up
the idea to make 'Slaughterhouse'?
Needed a
script that was do-able on a small budget, with
practical locations and delivered the goods.
The
film kind of reminded me of 'Texas
Chainsaw Massacre' and sequels on
'A Nightmare On Elm Street'. Were you a
fan of those films?
I saw
'TCM' in the theatre with some film friends and
was impressed with what they accomplished on a
shoestring budget.
Were there any
familiar faces that tried out for the
parts?
No.
What did you ask
each actor to do in order to audition?
We rented
a small theatre in Hollywood, advertised for
actors in the trades. I looked for body types and
whether they could improvise.
How did you find
Don Barrett and Joe barton who played the
slaughterhouse killers?
During a break at
the casting event Joe sidled up to me on the
street corner and introduced himself. He looked
perfect but was short and we envisioned a huge
oafish type. But we knew he was right for the
part.
For Don's, our first choice was a much taller
classic John Carradine type actor. Don was our
second choice but was the same height as Joe, so
we cast Don (And very glad of it)
I understand that
Don Barrett has done alto of theatre work. Have
you seen any of his shows?
Yes, as
the King at the 'Medieval Times' shows in the Los
Angeles area.
Joe Barton on the
other hand didn't want to be in the spotlight
afterwards as he only accepted small roles like
in the goreflick 'Blood Diner'.
What has he been doing professionally?
Last I
spoke with Joe, he was married with one
"Little Buddy Bacon" and was a security
agent in Las Vegas.
Now
when you saw Sherry come in to read for Liz
Borden, did you say to yourself right after that
you wanted her cause she really fit the part for
it?
Sherry
had the looks, stature and desire. No contest.
Did you also feel
she could get alot more work in the b-film
industry as she had a natural talent?
Absolutely!
She is a real "trooper!" When we were
shooting long days and nights and everyone was
numb, she was always ready to go and usually in
one take.
Now I understand
that one of the actors named Erich Schwartz who
played Bendorf's boyfriend Skip had an accident
that jeopardised the filming.
Very early in the
shooting schedule we had scenes with Skip driving
in the jeep with the kids. The jeep we were going
to use for the film was my old yellow jeep
commando. Erich asked to take it for a run to get
used to it. He managed to run it into a ditch
totalling the vehicle and only slightly injuring
themselves.After the actors were checked at a
hospital, we managed to borrow a jeep from our
caterers' daughter. That is the jeep in the
movie. Make-up covered the bruises on the actors
faces.
WOW! That's
intense! Of course the film was a spoof with
names like Liz Borden and Lester & Buddy
Bacon along with humorous dialogues and did you
intentionally try to make up for the gore in the
film as it was quite shocking but well done?
Yes.
When I was growing up in Los Angeles, there was
an auto dealer named Les Bacon who advertised on
TV
Were you also
wanting the audience to squirm and leave an
impression afterwards?
Sure.
This genre film should be like riding a roller
coaster. Hopefully you get off the ride laughing
and exhillerated.
Who did the
prosthetics for the film as it looked so real?
Can't remember the
young fellows name. He was the youngest member of
an effects family in Los Angeles.
What was the
experience like doing the whole film?
Exhillerating,
exhausting and satifying.
Do you have any
memorable experiences you'd like to share with
us?
The
pigpen scene where Buddy is sitting carressing
his pigs. We were going to hide the cardboard
under fresh straw so Buddy could sit over surface
rather than urine and feces soaked straw. He said
forget it and sat right down in the goo and
grabbed a couple of pigs and cuddled them. The
camera and two crew members were on fresh
cardboard however. Buddy was a real trooper.
What was
the toughest scene to shoot?
The first
sequence shot is always the most difficult
because it takes time for everyone to co-ordinate
as a team. The opening night sequence was tough
on everyone.
How long did it
take to shoot the beginning of the film which was
at night time when the teens were partying near
the slaughterhouse and then that was when Joel
Hoffman and Courtney Lercara's big scenes
together before they were hacked away?
Our wonderful
producer Jerry Encoe found that slaughterhouse
exterior complete with the old bus and pig pens.
We did nothing but rewrite the action to fit what
we had to work with.
I also understand
that the dead cat hanging from the ceiling was
real. Where did you get the cat corpse?
Our prop
master Mike Scaglioni, obtained a dead lab cat
from a local university. It reeked of
formulahyde.
Did it disturb
any cat lovers on set at all?
No
How did
you make the effects seem real when Jeff Wright's
character as Deputy Dave have his hand chopped
off?
Excellent
work by our special effects guys using plastic
tubes, a turkey baster and stage blood.
The people on the
hooks looked creepy. How did everyone feel about
that scene?
Those
scenes were actually shot in an actual
slaughterhouse at night. We were all too tired to
be creeped out. Just getting everyone hung was
difficult.
Did the actors feel
uncomfortable being on the hooks? Hoffman and
Lercara were the ones that had to perform that
scene the most since they were the first two who
got butchered by Buddy but were good sports about
it all as they really looked like dead meat and
they got work in a handful of other low budget
horror flicks.
No one
complained. We stood them on chairs between
takes.
I also understand
that you were planning a different ending. Tell
us about that one and what was the purpose of not
doing it?
We ran
out of money 9/10's of the way through and had to
sell off some foreign rights to get enough money
to complete the film. We completed the majority
of the shooting in 6 weeks before we ran out of
cash. Four months later, we shot the last scenes
of the rain sequence that you see now.
What
happened when you took it to the MPAA in order
for it to get a rating?
The MPAA
had seven people watch the film and rate it. When
I heard we were given an "X" rating, I
met with a rep from the MPAA and cut the
offending scenes from the print they were
watching... Voila, got the "R".
What countries
did it play in theatres as I understand that it
played on different dates in each country?
I can't
remember the number of countries but it played in
North America, Europe and Asia. Did we ever see
the money - No. I first found out we are still
banned in Germany.
How long did it
play in theatre's?
Short
runs of a week or two. It was released in the
States just as kids were returning to school
after summer break... Not a good time to release.
We you aware
after all these years this flick became a cult
favourite?
Not at
all.
Alot of these films are
coming back as sequels like 'Sleepaway
Camp' and 'My Bloody Valentine' due
to the fame they had. I also understand that you
wrote a sequel as I will trying to get indepdent
filmmakers interested. Do you hope your script
will be seen on film and will we see the demented
retarded killer Buddy again?
Yes,
Buddy returns and makes a court room appearance.
I hope they can find a court interpretor.
Now there was a 'Slaughterhouse
2' made but it beared no relationship to
the Bacon killers as it took place at a carnival
with a demonic clown named Pigsby Malone. How did
the makers get the rights to name it that?
We are
unaware of this film. But a title which is a
common word or term cannot be protected.
What have you
been doing in the industry lately?
I left
filmmaking because the distributors want to keep
your money and one can't support a family living
from no paycheck-to-no paycheck. I make aviation
training and travel videos and produce videos for
the U.S. Navy.
Do you think
you'll return to horror film directing?
I'd
like to shoot my sci-fi horror script 'The
Predators'. It's a winner.
Do you have fans
still mailing you about the film and asking for a
sequel?
The film
was made 20 years ago so the fan mail has
trickled to about one inquiry every 1.2 light
years.
Were you
approached to write or direct any other horror
films?
No. I
wrote my own scripts. 'The Predators' and
'Screaming Meemies' but never got the financing.
According to the
imdb.com you were a production assistant on the
1992 film 'Dead Girls Don't Tango' which
starred Karen Black. How did you get involved
with the film and was it a horror flick too?
A friend
of mine was the camera man on this picture and I
loaned him my 35mm camera gear and lighting but I
never actually worked on that film. Credits are
often padded for reasons known only to the
producers.
The 'Slaughterhouse' credits are a good example.
We had a small crew most of the time of
professionals and volunteers.
I was the key editor of the picture but I had
already been billed as the writer/director.
Prior to filming, I had shot a documentary on a
geothermal power plant near El Centro, CA. I
signed the security sheet just after a Mexican
worker named "Sergio Vribe". I thought
that name had a creature flair to it and chose it
as an editors alias. Also, the additional
camerawork is billed to 'Enrique LaCosta' another
of my Latin alias.
Now here's some fun stuff:
What are your favourite horror films?
'Abbott
& Costello Meets Frankentein'
If you were a top
horror movie director/writer whether he was alive
or not, who would he be?
I like
being me.
If there was a
project you'd like to change, what would it be?
'King
Kong' (The latest release). - trim an hour of
crud out of it.
What is your idea
of perfect happiness?
Besides
enjoying my family.... flying BAJA in my plane
and drinking margarita's. (After we land of
course).



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